Server Reset?

First, I just want to say to CyberVic : this isn't intended as a coup on how you choose to run the server. I just want to throw it out there and see what people think.

I think the PvE and PvP worlds should be reset right about now. Please read on and reply with your thoughts.

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One of the reasons I joined this server was because the PvE and PvP worlds only reset twice. I thought it would be cool to have the guarantee that what I built would remain for a long time. But, having observed the reality of it, I now believe it hampers game play.

The problem is basic economics. These worlds are being flooded with resources (because the mining world is reset and therefore resources are infinite), but no resources are ever "taken out" of the game in significant quantities. Therefore, EVERYTHING from blocks to materials to rupies are continuously devalued (supply far exceeds demand, always). Eventually there is just nothing left to do, because you have collected literally everything. Minecraft wasn't intended to have an "endgame".

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MY ASSERTION:

I think Peaceful/PvP resets would result in more vibrant trading, better communities, more new players, and more interest from existing players.

1. Trading: It's simple, reseting worlds = excess resources are deleted = more demand = more balanced economy.

2. Community: Due to increased trading, players would have to interact more. Further, after a reset, people would form new groups to build towns. This may include groups of people you just met over the past few months. The towns would actually be active because they necessarily couldn't be that old.

3. More New Players: I've gone over this in the New Member Retention thread, so I won't say too much here. Basically, since the towns would be being actively built, new members could actually feel like they contribute something.

4. Existing Players: We're on a survival server, but when you have so much stuff that you're essentially playing creative, it can become boring. I know people have put a lot of time into projects, but after they're done what happens? "Welp, I built my big project...guess there's not much more for me to do here." And they leave. Resetting would open so many doors. Ever thought, "Man, that was a lot of work. I wish I would have done some things differently, but it's too much work to change it now"? Wait for the reset and build it better! How about, "I really like my current town, but it doesn't make much sense to expand it further now. I'd really like to make a new town with a different layout." Wait for the reset and build it different! Resetting would allow for people to keep getting better, keep making new goals and projects, and keep things fresh.

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MY PROPOSAL:

I do NOT think everyone should start at square one. Some people have put a lot of time into this server, and that should be rewarded.

1. For a period of time before the reset (say two weeks), players should be able to sell uncommon/valuable materials for rupies (gold, diamonds, spawn eggs, some materials, etc). These rupies would carry over into the new world at a percentage reduction.

2. So now we have players with a whole bunch of rupies in a brand new world. To start, there should be admin shops that allow you to buy anything (everything from blocks to diamonds to any material). Since all the materials would be spawned in, the money from these shops would go to the "server" (i.e., get deleted). Therefore, players that put a lot of time into the server would get more rupies from selling materials before the reset, and would be able to buy more to start in the new world. After a time (a month or so), the admin shops would phase out as player shops are established.

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McMMO should definitly be reset. The progression of levels at the start of the server, especially with the new and improved ratios implemented by Cyber and Erik, will be very interesting, and with some low level rewards, McMMO level grinding could inspire a huge amount of competition. Rewards could be similar to skill capes, rewarding the player with a special something when they reach a level in a skill!

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Resources would be deleted from the economy by the reset. Money is taken out of the economy by the admin shops. Items can now hold value and the game can hold people's interest again.

Of course, some details would need to be worked out, such as the pricing of the admin shops. Or safeguards to ensure one person doesn't buy up a huge amount of something and try to make an early monopoly. But those are minor details. I'd like to know what everyone thinks of it as a whole. Feedback is greatly appreciated!

 

You dunno how long n how hard it was to move all the builds to the new worlds....it was tough....we don't need a world reset not for along while...till then stop scaring new ppl who are just starting out....also trollolol....funny thing here is salmon already pulled this card out a couple days ago...now nmb, and awasted... trolls love making ppl get mad...It's what feeds them...so I'm spoiling this thread...

 

I personally feel that it is too soon for another reset. There's been quite a lot of towny activity lately. I don't think a reset would be welcomed by those who have worked hard at establishing new towns. And a definite no on MCMMO reset. Maybe people could have the option to restart their progress if they choose but I think a global MCMMO reset would be badly received.

Maybe another way to stimulate activity and consume resources would be monthly towny themed build contests?

 

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I completely agree, and we should make the only way to get money after the restart is to kill people. That way everyone will PvP. But someone is worth only let's say 50r every 30 minutes they are actually in game. You just have an auto kicker every 5 minutes so people can't farm their gold. Of course you can still get money from voting duh, so ppl will do that more toooooo!!!

 

I am personally against a reset at this time.
The only reason that I have is the amount of time we spent working on Exile.

 

One of the lures of Shadecrest is that you can chose whether or not you want to PVP or not; you cant make that one of only two ways to get money and, as a result, borderline force everyone to PVP. This will only hurt the server by severely hampering the economy as well as make a lot of the peaceful players leave.

SkittlesQueen Don't just role up into a thread and accuse someone of being a troll. This proposal obviously took some time to make and is a serious suggestion that we have had to take in the past.

All that being said, I don't think this idea will fly for a few reasons.

Firstly, a decent portion of the player base here would leave when their items/homes/towns get removed. They worked hard on their creations and aren't going to be happy when/if they get removed. The same would happen with an MCMMO reset

Secondly, if the point of a map reset is to fix the economy, or something along those lines, then why would you allow players to carry anything over at all? The rich players would still be rich, the poor would still be poor; the only thing actually lost would be chest locks and blocks which, by the system proposed above, could easily be recouped.

It seems like the main issue you have is that materials lose value because of the mining world and i don't think a hard reset on everyone's stuff is going to fix that. The mining world would still be reset leading to the same problem a year or so down the line.

Personally, I couldn't care less if things get reset, I just think that it would have a net loss for the community as a whole.

 

Oh right maybe we can make it so that u get 50r per 30 min u play on the peaceful world. Wait TheTechGeek245 told me along time ago that we were gonna split up the worlds so u could only live in 1, what happened to that. I think that is a good idea.

 

I'm just throwing this out there, if you're going to reset the worlds, don't let items carry over from pve to pvp vice versa. I've wanted that for a long time I just knew it couldn't be done without a reset.

 

Ha, NO.

Also, I have just founded a town, and renovated my base, and would want a refund for the town, and my base to be copied over.

 

Look at which forum this is posted within.

 

oh my god.
*Strangles NMB

 

Please don't derail the thread. We're trying to have a mature discussion here.

 

This is clearly a massive troll thread started by Nmb.

 

I have no idea how this actually worked.
CyberVic THEdeadRETURNED and ezeiger92 caught on, I just took PhuzzYLogik's post from like 2 years ago, added the colored equals signs, switched some stuff around so it made sense with where we are at, and posted it.

 

Personally I do like the idea of a reset, but the repercussions of doing so right NOW would hurt the server. I think maybe down the road more we should reset it (not mcmmo, just map).

^ I like dis

Perhaps we can do contests AND rewards for towns, such as:

• Most Improved
• Best PvP/PvE(population based)
• Best Looking

This can be something like a monthly voting contest, but with towns? idk xD

 

Pop based? you know how many people become inactive and the town assistants don't remove them?

No wonder It was weird when I saw it in server games :3

 

Most of PS was inactive when I left it, Will_Face, NicoNugget, etc.

 

What does that... what? The grammar is far too bad to be read.