PVP Rule

Just wanted to make this post quick because I believe there is a gray area in the pvp rules that could use patching. I feel it should state the purpose of a town spawn. The town spawn is used by residents to get to town, and by outsiders to tour the town upon request. I try to keep the spawn private to avoid misuse, but I do forget occasionally. When this happens, I want it clearly stated the town spawn cannot be used to retrieve dropped items from an opposing town. Raiders seem to think if the spawn is public, its okay to raid, die, then warp to retrieve there things. I find this annoying and wish for it to stop. (I asked the people who do it to stop, they proceeded to say there was no rules about using /t spawn when not raiding). Likewise, I feel you shouldn't be able to use warps to get to other towns to retrieve items (apparently jasperli knows of hidden warps in flexcity?). I hope you all agree this should be a rule, so as to decrease the abuse of the gray area in the rules.

Note: This has nothing to do with the /home and warping in pvp. Its simply stating that no one is to using warps/town spawns to pick up dropped items.

 

The only one I ever knew of was /warp ciulerson2. Ciul made this by mistake when the server perms were buggy. Golui put lava under it like a week later when people found out about it, but that was cleaned up and the warp stopped working. Jasperli told me (/tell) that there were hidden warps (I think he said underground) in flex that he knew of when I was discussing the original issue of warping with him, though I have no knowledge of these.

 

maybe allow the use of town spawns not to pick up items after a battle, but fix up any griefs, as in building over a wall or breaking into houses, but ask the towns permission first.

 

Sharq, it is implied that if a town has a defense to stop people from entering and towering is required, the members of that town take it down after others raid. That is a major con of building a wall around your town (or making it in the sky). It would just be too difficult for raiders to tear down their towers after every raid.

 

I agree Z_Millla, if anyone is using warps for this purpose they should stop.

If you feel you have proof of someone doing this please report to me.

 

I think there are not much hiden warps left in Flex Had to just tell u litle bit rubish to get you into the fight against warps

 

I think there should be in rules, when warping / home is allowed rather than when its not allowed. Small list, and hard to missunderstand.

Like I would myself want to know about is /t spawn allowed to help allied town ? Rebelion is right next to rebelion I dont realy care, but just woulf like to know

 

In regards to sharq and ndvs comment, you simply should not use a town spawn unless you ask to visit. Towns (specifically PVP) should keep their spawns private to avoid misuse. This thread is in regard to misusing a town spawn when the mayor/assistance fail to make it private.

I screenshotted the live log, and then confronted Jasperli about it. He was quite confident that he was not breaking the rules (he was not using the /t spawn to raid), though I informed him of the rule about abusing gray area within the rules. I felt that instead of wasting peoples time by reporting him and arguing over weather or not a rule was broken, I would simply have the rule (hopefully) made official so as to not have it become a problem in the future (if it happens again I will report and cite this thread).

My response:

(When you die, you appear at spawn in the main world where you can warp. Have some integrity and just play by the rules)

 

Z_Millla did I once pick up items i had left on ground by dieing by usin /t spawn ? No i didn't and just to let you know i use livelog all the time during raids to misslead you, becouse ur watching it 24/7 u can see me writing things like /home King_ etc during raids just to make you think i left as people use livelog mostly to detect raids and see if people are still in town.

It is the tactic i use, and I belive livelog was never made to detect raids Millla.

 

Again from my original post:

You picked up items that ace was throwing to me, i.e. dropped items)


You know what happened, but let me reiterate for you. You raided. You killed ace5511, then you died from burning (I assume from a fire aspect sword). I then went to where you and ace had both died, he arrived at the same time as me. He picked up all the items, and then proceeded to throw some to me. There was an insane lag spike, I see you running towards me from the direction of spawn, grab the items, and then run to the portal (lag spike is only relevant because it was interfering with the item trade). I checked the livelog after I saw you in town to confirm that you used the town spawn to get there. Why were debating this, I have no idea. I'm not reporting you, I'm simply pushing to get clearer rules and make the game more fair. Say what you want about the situation, I'm not making things up. If you have something relevant to my original post, feel free to share your opinions.

And of course the livelog isn't made to detect raids, as no one should be warping while raiding anyway.

 

Thats the trick im not invite to King_Videot's home, but it stillshows in livelog. Also /warp ciulerson2 and /warp golui you have seen me using do not exist and im not invited to etiher one of them.

Also as you know your livelog proves are taken of me writing /t spawn flexcity and with out warping there (as the town public status is disabled)

 

All irrelevant. Jasperli is simply spamming this thread in hopes of getting all warps taken out of PVP (call me a liar and ill post the screenshots).

 

Oh well ... Thank you Z_Millla

 

I would have sworn I'd seen a rule stating that using /homes, /warps and /town spawns to raid was illegal and a temp. ban, but oh well. Guess I'm crazy.

 

re-read the original post, its about using /t spawn after a raid to pick up dropped items, not raiding. it is a suggestion to cover up the gray area

 

Crusaders all the time used to use both Zyenide's and Golui's home after a raid.. to pick stuff up. -.-

 

just keep your town on private millla to avoid this in the future. As long as it is public someone will always abuse it.

To all others please stop using /home or /town spawn to raid or pick up items youve lost.

 

I updated the rules on this. Sorry it took a while.

 

Thanks much!




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