Suggestions from mrtree!!

I only want the best for this server, seeing if I quit this server i'll probably just quit minecraft as a whole.

I support imaxorz and his decisions thus far, eventhough ive never said that to any of you - the point is is if I dont support the owner/main admin of the server I will NOT play the server. I dont like cheaters, it ruins it for everyone and shadecrest makes it a priority to keep the playing field even for all who join.

Understand that with my suggestion the long existing players (myself included) will lose a significant amount. Rupies and Materials - not to mention (for me a lot) time spent on buildings and design. I understand this - I think its important that the server is imporved for everyone, even if that means that a few well established players need to make a sacrifice in order to achieve this goal.

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With 1.0 I think Shadecrest map should be entirely wiped, the only thing remaining is the personal statistics achieved during the beta period of Shadecrest.

Players who have played on the server, remaining loyal, should be rewarded in a way that allows them to continue what they were doing on the old map. Allowing players to keep their stats will improve pvp and building for the players who have these higher statistics have proven themselves dedicated members of Shadecrest.

The top 4 peaceful and PVP towns (total of 8 towns) should be granted free town placement for they earned the right through activity and longevity to remain a town on the new server. Admin decided.

Limiting Worlds: If you limit the worlds players who join the server will be funneled into the existing worlds we already have. I know its important to have a server that "caters to everyone" but in this case I think if we prioritize what we want shadecrest to be we will have a better playing environment.

I suggest PVP/PEACEFUL/NETHER/MINING as the shadecrest server. No creative. Maybe a real small "Testing" world where players have a real small map thats reset often - just to try new things with redstone or new blocks.

No more Creative. Creative, if you wanted, could be hosted on a different IP addresss and voted as a separate server. So Shadecrest and Shadecrest Creative


The reason I suggest no creative is because I dont think there is a demand big enough for it. Players that build in there come and go - nobody consistently makes pixel art. I dont think? lol.

TO CONCLUDE GENERALLY

Once we are entirely updated to 1.0

Entirely new generated maps. Wipe of all materials/rupies/towns.

Players retain their statistics.

Only maps available: PVP/PEACEFUL/NETHER/MINING

Top 8 towns (4 peaceful/4 pvp) are allowed to re-create for free - all others need to raise rupies and re-establish their towns. Admin picks the most viable towns to transfer.

The map would change to this format on 1/1/12. First day of the new year. This gives the current staff to prepare, and the current players to take screenshots of their favorite, currently existing creations so they can duplicate them onto the new map.
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Lastly: The server needs more active moderators/admin in the evening for the eastern timezone.

so between 4-11pm est time (-5 eastern/american).

I frequently check and they are sparse in that time frame - you all just playing vanilla? lol.


- I hope my criticism is seen as constructive rather than offensive! I only want the best and as I dish it I will more than gladly take it. <3 shadecrest.

 

I can not say i do not agree. This (first idea) would help. Players might say what about all my materials? That is just the reward tree is talking about. Jasperli has over 500 mining (50% double drop) so he will get items faster than new players and replace his stuff alot quicker. The economy was also set up on a new and inexperienced server. Now that we know what we want we can set up a stable economy from the beginning. If we did do this, im sure we would lose a good amount of players, but gain a good bit too. If you are so worried about your buildings, do as tree is going to do, take screenshots of the buildings you care about and simple rebuild them. This idea would also eliminate people who figured out how to cheat in the early days. I remember when you could duplicate blocks and im sure a good bit of the community did. People who knew about it for a long time might have chest fulls of diamonds as we speak, even though that time was a good bit ago. People could have duplicated several-lots of chestfuls of good material. These materials might still be here today. For the second idea, can not say i disagree either. Im not sure where they all have been, but most have not been active lately. I know all can not be here all the time. The admins have to be an older age (i believe college+). This means many of them have jobs and life may get in the way. We can all agree on that, and i know they are trying the best that they can. I do not have a suggestion there, but i agree with tree as i am Eastern Standard time too.

 

I only agree with the staff thing. There's never any staff on anymore when I'm on (same time you posted)

 

Sometimes you make decisions because you know they are the best for everyone. Not everyone may like them, so you may sacrifice a few good players who disagree but if you believe in the system the new players who appreciate the evolved server will stick around and make it better than ever.

The players who stay and deal with the change are the ones you want anyway.

My family owns a restaurant and I write the menu.

Sometimes I have to take special dishes off that some people LOVE in order to inrtroduce new ones to keep our menu rotating and fresh. Some are upset at the time of change, however after realising the new dish I now server is just as good - or better, they soon forget of the way it was before and accept the new menu.

Ive done it for 10 years now.. Its relative.

 

I overall agree, even though it would be hard to start fresh, and depressing, it would simplify things maybe, like making everyone a noob again so the real noobs fall into the ranks and learn how to not be noobs with everyone else. confusing i know. maybe have it for a week and if people rage to much go back original maps?

Also, go back to the original plans of moving towns and big structures over to a new map? i walk around peaceful and see a lot of horrible houses and such. I know, it would be a gigantic hassle, and i especially know this after messing with world edit and destroying half of my single player map.

In fact, how about just "crash" the server, say it needs to be troubleshooted and we have another "temp" server for a month, XD i loved that temp server

After writing all of that i realize this is a survival game, we shouldn't just give up and start a new "save" when things get though, we survive. (unless the server is about to die, then we do what it takes)

those are my random thoughts.

 

^^^^ we could not do the original plans of copying because there was to much to copy and it made the server lag real bad. I still feel like this idea would benefit in the long run. I was not here when the Mcmmo stats were reset a long time ago, but how bad was it. This would be like that, but on a larger scale. The server was recovered by the time i had joined (mid July) and i didn't even hear about that for a month or two. I think at first people might complain but this i personally think is a great idea. I get what your saying about taking everything off the board is much different than taking something here and there. Tree i believe in this case is trying to do a non selfish thing that best benefits the server.

 

i dont think tree is being selfish at all, he has made some awesome things on the server and is willing to give it all up
things to think about:

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  [li]if maps reset, strictly no resource gathering (with exception of farms) in main maps at all, it just ends up looking hideous, look at peaceful spawn[/li]
  [li]the first few weeks will just be people in the mining world looking for items[/li]
  [li]if decided early and everything gets reset everyone just stops playing until the new maps are introduced, if economy or mcmmo don't get reset, people would work harder to get better levels or more money so they can do better in the future maps.[/li]
  [li]adding fresh maps to half of PVP and peaceful might be a better change for the server[/li]

 

Please, please no T_T

 

I, honestly, don't want to start over. As a mayor, I'd hate to see all the work I put into VN go to waste. But I love SC and I'll stay with it no matter what happens.

 

That is a loss alot of people will make. People who just started towns will lose them as well as developed towns. Max said if it did happen though, that the money would be given back, but not the money to claim the plots. We are all losing something whether it is buildings, items, towns. The upside is that we gain a practically new server, that is completely developed. Everyone can now erase mistakes they made in the past, and improve those. This will also help get rid of a LOT of inactive people. I think the server would improve because everyone now knows what they want to build and have knowledge of the server. The players who have been here for months would help set up a brand new and stable economy, which people want. There is more upside in my opinion than down. Overall this would have a hard impact at first, but would pay off in the long run. I hope this can happen and that some agreement may be made. I know this is a long shot as most of the community will most likely appose this.

 

will anything be saved? iconomy, vip priveledges, that?

 

yeahh i don't think it will anyways. but for those suggesting, let them suggest about iconomy and vip priveledges.

 

No? When did I say make your own damn food? lol

The point is is that its my business so I decide whats best for my consumers, because I know better than they do. Soon as they work in this business for 15 years and own their own place for 10 then they can do whatever they like with their menu. Thats why I am where I am and they are where they are.

I dont care if a few regulars are upset because the change is for the best - and if they come back and try it out they will realize this.

so to translate

Many players would initially complain about everything being wiped, however after noticing all the advantages and after they mined their initial stock back and re-build their favorite buildings they will understand why the decision was made.

I outlined many positive reasons - and im sure I could come up with more.

The reasons not to are "Cause some will be mad"

So the vocal minority will win over the better idea.

 

Let the voting begin!! XD

 

I DO like this idea, but think about all the stuff everyone has. You want it all to go to waste? I don't want to type something that's TL;DR, so what about resetting the maps completely, but allow us to keep our money or items? I don't wanna losem y MCMMO, and I don't think a lot of people would either.. There are a TON of things around the server from banned players or that are just nothing, and it makes it dirty :/

 

i wouldnt mind resetting the map. only thing that would bother me is chopping trees down.

 

I couldn't have said it better myself.

I would love a map and stuff reset and stuff.
But I would be annoyed if I lost my stuff, but then I really wouldn't mind, I don't get stressed over that stuff.

But, bottom line is, nobody would agree with this, they would just quit. Then Shadecrest might have trouble finding new players, then it would slowly die. It would be like creating a new server, but already with staff and players?

And I have noticed that there aren't really any Mods/Admins when I play at times from 9am-10pm GMT.
And I think they mostly play on Vanilla, because there isn't anyone really to bug them, but then they're just become more inactive on Shadecrest Bukkit, where players actually need them.

I'm strongly against Vanilla, although it will probably stay because the staff and VIP's love it. It's taking players and staff away from Shadecrest, and might slowly loose us some players?

I know this is very unlikely to happen, because everybody voted against it.
But that's just my opinion.

-JoeyLeary

 

Whatever the decision is, I think should be made quickly if possible. If the map is gonna be reset, then I won't work on anything, same with others.

 

Keeping things as they are, or reset almost everything..... they both have a good vibe really. The only reason I would say no is because I have spent a bunch of time making my red stone secret house "still working on it" and it would be a pain to rebuild because of all the red stone wiring and circuits I made. I would never get it built the same way again; and I am just one of many who don't want to loose their creations.

This server is almost a year old. Those of you who have been here since the beginning have one years worth of work invested into your builds and stand to loose the most. If you guys decide to go with it then I will have no regrets leaving my house of secrets..

I am going to try to sum up what is fun to do on minecraft, but I know it will not be perfect.
1. People like to create. it is the journey that is enjoyable because you get to look to the future.
2. People like to show off what they built. Having past builds around for this purpose fills people with joy and pride at their accomplishments.
3. Some people like to hoard resources and have more than others. This includes all forms of resources.
4. People like to explore and discover new things.
5. people like to play with friends. This is a big one. Nobody likes to play with rude griefers.
6. some people like the challenge of pvp.

I think these are most of the things that people enjoy.

If we reset we will loose a bunch of history from this server, but we will be gaining quite a bit as well. From the list above, "#2 People like to show off what they built" will be lost unless they take the time to rebuild it, and "#3 Some people like to hoard resources" will be reset, and they can gather more even though it will take a while.

However #1, #4, #5 and #6 will not change. We will still be able to create. We will be able to explore unexplored lands. We will still have our community and our friends to help us along. We can still slaughter each other in pvp "this never changes lol."

I am willing to this, but I would like the main spawn world to not be reset. it has too much history. I would even like to see one or two buildings added to it that have been around forever, but this is not needed.

Bottom line: will keeping things the way they are be more fun, or will starting a new map with our friends be more exciting and enjoyable. Because I for one, play on shadecrest because it's fun, has great Friends, and great players.

 

the temp server that was put up while we were upgrading to the 2k server was like resting everything, it was fun, but mainly because you could spawn things and dyno/blat spawned mobs everywhere
remember when we update to 1.0 we will be getting a new half of each main map, and i think the architects and yard are working on a new spawn