Bring dynmap hide back?

The one problem that I have with your idea, Z_Millla, I'd that by giving it an option to be bought ingame, it is giving all this players who were going to donate to get the perk, a way of never donating and stilling recieving the same perk. Who would want to spend REAL money, when they know that they could be getting the same exact thing for essentially free. They would rather just spend the rupees on it. I also believe that there was a time that you could spend ingame money to have acces to the magic carpet plug in. I believe that there is a reason that no perks are available to be bought ingame with rupies. It will just decrease the amount of donations that the server receives. I am admiment in my belief that this perk should return to VIPs and stay only with VIPs.

 

I have to say that if Dynmap hide is going to change from how it was before, I agree with Nifix. I think we need to keep it a VIP perk, but if it did change, I would want to still have the acces of it. I still would rather keep it VIP only, but if I did have to choose an idea to compromise on, it would be the one Nifix said

 

I think it is very necessary to have this perk for VIP's.
I mean really: VIP = Very Important Person.
It's not like we want them to be VNP's = Very Normal People.
Its these things that make their donations stand out.


[move]VIP + Fish = Cats (Which I love)[/move]

 

Yes, I think we should keep this perk. It is for the people who has donated money to the server. If we absolutely need to get rid of most the people using dynmap, we can make it for the people who has donated over 30$ to the server. That means the perk is for people who really cares about the server and not where people donate 5 dollars just to be better at PvP.

 

Where'd you come from after over a year of no posts?

 

Man these poll votes sure are a lot different then last time. I just hope if dynmap hide is taken away for good; then a new perk shows up in the future. Max needs donations now more then ever (for that bill thing he recieved) So now is the time to be adding more perks, not taking away the ones people love most.

EDIT: So I just got a new idea and figured I would share it. So what about if there was just dynmap hide for vips in the peaceful map! A lot of people have been complaining about how it affects playing on peaceful so that might be a compromise.

 

I like this. Jasperli can mine without his, uhh, stalkers, but the huge advantage in pvp isn't there.

 

Why not keep the dynmap for the looks of what everyone has built and just take people off it altogether. Its unrealistic to know where your enemies/friends are by glancing at a map anyway and then NO one will have any advantage in pvp

 

Ohhhhh just wait until they hear you said that. A bounty on you!

 

At this point, I believe that the sneak activating Dynmap hide is the best solution. It can solve the problems on both sides. Non-VIPs can still hide, but VIPs can still keep the perk that they want want. The VIPs still have a difference that they can just put in the command and stay hidden, but the Non-VIPs still can use the perk. I believe this really evens the playing field. It also solves the problems on both PVP and Peaceful.

 

So it seems like everyone has some different ideas on what to do with dynmap hide. I will list all of them here:

Idea 1:
Have dynmap hide be free for vips but cost in game money for non vips

Idea 2:
Sneaking hides you on dynmap for non vips, vips have dynmap hide.

Idea 3:
Seeing people on dynmap is disabled and dynmap is for looking at buildings, ect.

Idea 4:
Dynmap hide is only allowed in the peaceful map and still disabled in the pvp map

So what do you guys think of these?

 

What? I was asked by alan to make this post, not because I was "whining"

 

Finally.
So the options are nobody has hide, or everyone does. Correct?

 

I rather nobody have it. Then you would have to plan raids more efficiently, which would be more realistic then just going out anytime of the day and raid just because you want to.

 

I think Everyone should have it. You might as well let me people use radars that find other people because dynmap does the same thing. I can play with minecraft on monitor and dynmap on the other and know where everyone is. You should go on a raid not knowing what your going to find there. Its more realistic and just makes since.

 

I'd like all my donations back. I wanted dynmap hide 10+ times over

 

Lol i would never ask for the money back, there are other great perks that we have as VIP's

 

If you are going to give dyn-map hide to everyone, then you might as well just get rid of the dynamic map altogether. It would literally dissolve its entire purpose. Think about it, everyone would hide themselves before a raid, thus making the visualization of the map worthless. With permissions to use Rei's Minimap mod, its not like the map is used to find things either.

VIP's should be better because they are VIP's not because their advantages are "Unfair."
Technically, you are stealing from the people who initially donated for this perk!
Especially if you added this little sentence in AFTER some people donated:
"Donating doesn't give you any advantages in the game over other players because we feel like we need to keep it fair between everyone, but you do get some perks as a thank you."

-Zyenide

 

Wow. This may be the dumbest argument I've read on this topic.
1) dynmaps main use is to view people's creations, and to help yourself navigate. That wouldn't be taken away.
2) rei's doesn't span the length of the entire world, like dynmap.
3) VIPs SHOULDN'T be better than non donors. We don't want to obviously favor one group and shun another. That's stupid, and we aren't going to sell ourselves out like that.
4) The part that made me mad: stealing from players. They donated. They donated for this perk, fine, but it's a donation. If you donated to John McCain's presidential campaign, and he loses, then he doesn't owe you money nor did he steal from you. It's a donation, not a contract. Wow.
5) that 'little sentence' was in the original text before anyone donated. It's been the way perks have been decided since day one, and people have lost perks that were too powerful before.
In conclusion, this issue isn't about the staff slighting the VIPs, it's about whether everyone gets dynmap control, or no one. So stop the senseless... complaining, and contribute something that isn't aimed to piss people off.