Gingerswan

What is your IGN? the_reminator98
What is the IGN of the offenders? Gingerswan
Are there any witnesses? yes What are their IGN's? OiShockWavesv
Around what time did it happen? I am unaware of when this happened oiShocKWavesv will know
Which rules did they break? Sleeping in a bed of an enemy town to respawn (not stated in the rules but i'm positive it falls under setting your home in another person's base)
Did you talk to the people who were doing the rule-breaking? I did not
What did they say? Didn't talk to them
Do you think they should be given a punishment for this? Yes
Have they broke a rule(s) before? Yes
Which ones? setting /home in Aurora, setting home in Nmbr2d2's home, using /home to raid, too many to list from but those past 3 are very recent
Do you have screenshot(s) or video(s) of the incident (example: chat logs)? i have the video that Shock recorded. At 7:11 is when it proves he did. The rest of the video is just him admitting that he used Linkasa's home to raid Aurora, but its 2500 blocks away

 

so, have we reached a decision on this?

 

Yes, I know I'm not staff anymore, let alone survival staff. But I believe that my post would at least help speed it up.

I would leave it up to you to decide Random. Not every decision needs a vote.

The argument for a temp ban is that they've repeatedly broken rules, and as stated above sleeping in a bed is essentially the same as setting a home in the town. So basically they've broken that rule as well, and a ban would probably deter them from ever doing it again.
This argument is based around the fact that rules have been broken, so therefore punishment is in order.

The argument against is twofold. According to Ginger in the video, they only slept in the bed to pass the night, so this may have been a misunderstanding (unlikely in my opinion, this would require most people online to be sleeping as well).
The other reason against is that the bed was broken and reset, thereby solving the problem of the respawn in the town.
This argument is based around the fact that the immediate problem has been resolved and need not be pursued any further.

My personal choice would be a one day ban at the very least, considering this is hardly the first time this has occurred.

 

the thing is Legend he acts dumb on purpose. He is actually a smart kid but acts dumb to get out of these situations

 

Same incident as a couple days ago.
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Normally I would, but it involves a gray area in the rules, and I really haven't been active at all for the past week. I don't really know anything about the situation other than what I've read here, so I think I'm going to stay out of this one.

 

Banned until appealed.

 

I understand this is a bit of a late comment to make, but is not one to be left unconsidered.

Ginger has been on this server long enough to know that sleeping in a bed to pass the night does not work. Unless he was online by himself, that reason is absolutely absurd.

Sent from the new and improved space phone.

 

Please can somebody clarify the rules? As Far As I knew: "Stealing from any chest or furnace you have access to is legal."

It doesn't come with the caveat that you have to walk from spawn to a house in order to raid it.

 

Agreed. he would of also at least announced it to the people in that current world to sleep in a bed as well since that's the only way to pass the night cycle in a world.

 

The use of warps of any kind, including /home for the purpose of raiding is an illegal action. While incredibly ineffective, using a bed in an enemy town falls under that rule.

*Locking it up*

Sent from the new and improved space phone.

 

Hold on a minute, unlocked.
A)Do we know if Ginger was online alone?
B)Was ginger raiding or looting? If alone, it could easily have been looting, in which case that falls under you can access any chest that is open, which mega pointed out?

 

Even if he was raiding or looting it dosent matter. if he found a loophole in the rules its up too the survival staff too fix the loophole making it clear rather than making asumptions and desiding its against the rules afterwards. It is in a gray area but its still not against the rules. So fix the rules and dont blame the player.

 

Pie, shock recorded the video of ginger doing that so how can he be the only one on. The second one im not sure but from his past intentions he was going to use it to raid

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When Ginger actually set the bedspawn? Which I know is dumb as fuck, but still.

Whatever, I don't even care. Ban players at will if you want. As long as it doesn't stop them from getting onto creative, which still needs to be fixed really?

 

Lets be clear here.

When you say raiding, you mean attacking other players?

Looting: Taking from unlocked chests right?

Because those words aren't clear enough to base rules on. In my mind, raiding is the same as looting.

 

he still did it. It's like i set my /home in another town but i never used it, I'm still breaking a rule.
Plus in the video, Ginger stated in chat right after that he was passing the night, so pretty much stating that he slept very recently

 

Sleeping in a bed so you respawn there when you die is basically like setting your home there. Ginger intentionally found a gray area and was abusing it.
Correct me if I am wrong but:
1) He is in a town with mob spawns off so there is no need to skip night
2) At the time of the video he's already done it multiple times
3) He used /home linkasa to get there in the first place

 

What's wrong with using a home to get to a town if it is to take from unlocked chests?

The rules don't say anything against doing that. They just say:

(I'm not trying to be awkward, just would like to understand the rules clearly btw)

 

A home is still a teleport.