Peaceful and PvP Reset: Feedback Appreciated

Discussion in 'Survival Server Suggestions' started by PhuzzYLogiK, Sep 28, 2012.

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  1. Beocca

    Beocca Member VIP

    so u want to reset everything because there's inacvite ppl etc, that have high skill lvl?

    its thoughts like this that make me worry about that poll lol
     
  2. PieSquared761

    PieSquared761 Well-Known Member VIP

    I'm curious to see what Jasperli thinks about this.
     
  3. majestic_moose

    majestic_moose Well-Known Member VIP

    Jasperli, so next time he pops on, he can see this :p Problem is, hasn't been on forums in a month
     
  4. Cashkid32

    Cashkid32 Member VIP

    Isn't there some plugin where you can set up trainers for mcmmo skills? That would be good money. Eventually skills get pretty hard to raise, especially with the nerfed mcmmo we have.
     
  5. Lothaar

    Lothaar Member VIP

    Well, I am just to the point of finishing my town. Been working on it off and on for 6 months or longer. I almost have the 35k to found one. I have several people that will be joining the server to join my town.

    The main reason I liked this server was the long term persistent maps. It gave time for guys like me to build an entire city single handed and thereby motivate and get my friends to join up. We all had our own server that we ran for a while but gave it up and I came here to start building a place we could move too.

    Mcmmo and rupies I could care less about either way. For me, it is about what I have built and the purpose that I built it for. If the map is reset I might still play but I would not be motivated to try another ambitious build project. I just don,t have the time.

    As far as my friends, they will be less interested having to start at square one and with no support from me being established. Now they will want to shop around and see what other servers are out there and I will not be the first in to set up this time. Eventually I will go where they end up going as my plan all along was to be able to play with them on a good server in an established town.

    That said, the map is FUBAR with crazy biome intersects and other weird stuff. Anything other than a map reset will just lead to more messed up stuff later on in the map.

    As far as resets go in general, it really should be all or nothing across the board. The more carried over of buildings, money, items, levels, etc... the less the beneficial effects of the reset will be. A total reset of everything might lead me to eventually go to another server to join my friends, but a mixed or partial reset would probably just turn me off of the server all together.

    A total reset would also give the admins the best clean slate to set things up better this time like mods, infrastructure, economy, rules etc... They are always trying to make the server better, but they are limited in many ways. If we reset I would rather have admins spend their time setting up things the way they want to so they work well, rather than be bogged down with tasks generated from a partial reset.

    So I guess I may just open up my town warp to the public if it looks like we will reset, so at least a few people can experience my creation.
     
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  6. Thomasdd13

    Thomasdd13 Active Member VIP

    I'm so against this because amazing things that attract people have been built that wont get built again if it's reset. i know we could all sing kumbaya and built together, but the people who have put tons of time and dedication into what they've made on here, wont come back. if it's reset, i wont stay away forever, but it would kill it for me and honestly wouldnt bind me to this sever any more. town like arcadia and any other large one's have a history filled with good times and bad, and players that built their hearts out and most likely are not coming back. resetting everything just completely obliterates the history that the servewr has and thats what sets it apart from so mch else.

    if we just had a day where all the "trusted" members came together and cleaned the map up so that it was fresh and new without wiping all out hard work away, then that would be so muc better. we call all think of individual ways to solve the server's problems, but i think that just deleting everything on a whim isn't the right one.
     
  7. PieSquared761

    PieSquared761 Well-Known Member VIP

    Actually, I'm perfectly fine with a map reset, I'm just not fine with the rupie and McMMO reset.
     
  8. Archenemy666

    Archenemy666 Active Member VIP

    ok fine, keep mcmmo lvls, but don't transfer rupees over. If you're the mayor of a town you should be refunded with however much it took to expand that town to that size. as well as getting money to start the town.
     
  9. majestic_moose

    majestic_moose Well-Known Member VIP

    You just contradicted yourself, really. If money were to be reset, players shouldn't be reimbursed what they lost. If not, I'll be investing all my money into new towns
     
  10. Archenemy666

    Archenemy666 Active Member VIP

    hmm so I did, I was trying not to do that. >.<
     
  11. Nicholas2438

    Nicholas2438 New Member

    I think all should be reset to give everything a fresh new start and help make there be more things to do. Considering almost everyone has more than they need now.
     
  12. Random0ne

    Random0ne Well-Known Member

    It's not a perfect solution, but what if a few select players were granted a kind of "early access" to the new map. They would be chosen by the staff as the people who have the most to lose from a reset. For example, pie would be chosen because of her wealth, thomas would be chosen because of his epic builds, and moose would be chosen because of his mcmmo levels. (These are just examples; I know there are other people as well.) A head start would allow these people to choose the locations for their homes first, and give them the opportunity to acquire resources before most people were even allowed on. These things would effectively give them a small advantage over players who have not put as much time into the server. Granted, the advantage would be much less than what pie and a few others want, but this is the best solution I can think of if the server does get reset. I can't think of anything else to add right now, so I'll see what kind of reaction this suggestion gets.
     
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  13. Random0ne

    Random0ne Well-Known Member

    I'm a bit confused. What do you mean by that?
     
  14. Archenemy666

    Archenemy666 Active Member VIP

    fantastic!
     
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  15. PhuzzYLogiK

    PhuzzYLogiK Member

    I've been keeping kind of quiet since I think I've spoken my piece, but just to add a few thoughts...

    Likewise, if you just want effectively infinite stacks of materials to build and look at it, go to the Creative server.

    This is supposed to be Survival. When was the last time you thought, "Oh crap, if I don't start punching trees and find some coal, I'm going to die after the sun goes down"? As my friend pointed out, we walk through any map with impunity, and take more damage from falling than mobs. There's no sense of "surviving" left.

    I do sympathize with Flagellum some, since he has collected PvP gear that actually has a use (as opposed to stacks of blocks that are being collected for no immediate purpose). Since I don't PvP, I can't really suggest anything there, but I do think it may need to be considered differently.

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    Not to start more topics of discussion, but one other thing: Whether or not the server is reset, I think something needs to be done about Towny. Currently, Towny has very little effect because blocks not protected by Towny are protected by server griefing rules. So why join a town? In fact, people DON'T join towns to avoid even the smallest of taxes, and hide behind the protection of the rules. There's no risk.

    Proposed solution: All towns/nations have mandatory minimum taxes (fairly low, with an option to charge more). In exchange, Firespread and Explosions are OFF in Towns, but ON outside of Towny plots. Don't want to live in a town? That's fine--you can't be griefed--but lightning can set your house on fire. Or a creeper can take out parts of it.

    It would give people a real reason to form/join towns, and would keep the countryside a bit less cluttered, both because people will think twice about building there and because nature would take care of some of the cleanup.
     
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  16. Random0ne

    Random0ne Well-Known Member

    Oh, ok. I meant my post as a possible solution for players who disagree with the reset because of all the time they have put into the server. It would be a sort of compromise. Nothing would be carried over from the previous world, but they would still be able to give themselves a small advantage over others who have not put as much time in. I just thought it might be a way of lessening the blow of losing everything to a reset.
     
  17. sharqman

    sharqman Well-Known Member VIP

    With town/nation chat down the value of living in a town/being in a nation has gone down severely. I 100%agree with the mob thing, with the reset mob spawn radius should be decreased (i think it's 8 chunks now, 4 chunks would make it harder)

    regarding mcMMO, it makes it harder for new players to get established in PvP because even if all of their gear is the same, swords level and other combat skills will put the newer players at a disadvantage.

    Basically the the maps are corrupted, and older players have over a year worth of advantages in their favor. Do you guys not remember the joy of starting off? the fun adventures you had to get the items you cling to now? what is more fun, getting epic items, or having them? It is different with PvP items with players that actually use them, but PvP is down lately and nobody really PvPs with there best armor because they are afraid they might lose it. With 1.4 the maps will just get even more corrupted.

    If the maps are reset we will for sure use the old ones to form a survival games map.
     
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  18. Random0ne

    Random0ne Well-Known Member

    That's why I think it would be a good compromise to let some players on the new map a few days in advance. They can establish themselves, but not have much of an advantage over the average player.
    EDIT: and the survival games map idea sounds cool. :)
     
  19. majestic_moose

    majestic_moose Well-Known Member VIP

    Definitely agree with the mob thing, the last few months I have rarely seen the need to wear armour or carry a weapon, as the one mob I find every 10 minutes can be easily defeated.
    As far as I know, no one really has that high of a combat skill for anything, at least when compared to all of the other skills. If it's possible, lower the xp gain on combat related skills (maybe just swords) too so there's less of a difference there.
     
  20. PieSquared761

    PieSquared761 Well-Known Member VIP

    If we reset the map, lets just get rid of McMMO. Everyone will be equal, and everyone would be at 0 anyways. Not to mention less lag on the server.
     
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