The offical /Home poll!

Discussion in 'Survival Server Suggestions' started by pyro5050, Jul 26, 2012.

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  1. pyro5050

    pyro5050 Active Member VIP

    the /home command has been an issue for some mods/admins (most notably me) for the last few days.

    this is because people have their /home set as public, others use it to warp in and steal, the owner of the /home then complains, and by the rules that is against them. this complaint then comes to the admins/mods and we need to deal with it. finding the warps in the logs takes time, finding what was stolen takes time, mediating the argument takes time. and having to deal with an issue that was created by a player, i feel, is ridiculous.

    i put it to you as a vote, please think deeply about your response, Max had asked me to put a poll up to see what the players want. Alot of people have diffrent views and we like to hear them all.

    vote and discuss please.
     
  2. Flagellum

    Flagellum Member VIP

    I personally don't have a problem with it as it is now. I usually use my /home for business purposes and invites, so I don't want to see it change. I find it very handy to invite a friend over to help me with things in times of need.

    EDIT: Why don't you add an option that /home to steal is legal?
     
  3. Due_Date

    Due_Date New Member VIP

    I say leave it as it is. If you're worried about n00bs robbing you by using your /home, make it private! Or if you want to leave it public, lock your chests! Not that hard, just vote daily, and it's as easy as that.
     
  4. pyro5050

    pyro5050 Active Member VIP

    thats actually two of the options, but no one has voted for either one yet max.... :) the middle two are essentially change the way we deal with the warp robbers, the last one is to keep the admins doing tons of work around this issue, the first one is private only...
     
  5. Jasperli

    Jasperli Member VIP

    It worked great when there were no rules about using warps to steal. Will this be including warps then and everything or only /home?
    As if only using homes to steal will make it a rule a bit too easy to exploit. Setting your home near to some warp and making your house to public so people could use it to steal. And also if person A has his home public and person B lives near him and people use person A's home to steal from person B... It would most probably make more cry ;)
    So to make Pyro happy I say just take all rules away from using warps, homes, t spawn etc. to steal, if they make them public or invite some one to them it is their fault.
     
  6. pyro5050

    pyro5050 Active Member VIP

    heeheehee :)
     
  7. Wkdclwncar

    Wkdclwncar Member VIP

    I never understood why we added the rule that warping to steal is illegal. We didnt have this issue before that point. I think we should just make it legal to warp to steal. If something is unlocked, then why does it matter how the person gets there? The stuff will get stolen either way and that should be the fault of the player not locking. If they can't vote or go mining for an hour, then oh well, they lose their stuff to someone that finds it. Less work for the admins that way researching people who stole something (which is legal) but didnt walk all the way there from wherever they happened to be at the time (silly). So I vote that we keep it the way it is now but amend the rule that warping to steal is illegal, because it's unnecessary and kinda silly.
     
  8. Flagellum

    Flagellum Member VIP

    I agree with wkdclwncar completely!
     
  9. Lakarder26

    Lakarder26 Member VIP

    I think you should be allowed to /home to steal because if something is in one of their chests worth stealing a person is just going to get the cords and walk anyway.
     
  10. Griffsbrown

    Griffsbrown New Member VIP

    That is exactly what I was thinking. I think the poll should be redone with that idea in mind. Chests are not even that hard to lock. All of you have to vote and you can lock a chest. So I completely agree with this!
     
  11. iiDreamzzHD

    iiDreamzzHD Active Member VIP

    Your should only invite trusted people to your home, so I voted to change it so if someone ports that's invited, tough luck. It's your fault for trusting them in the first place.
     
  12. sharqman

    sharqman Well-Known Member VIP

    People would warp to Peaceful towns just to steal. This was an issue in Pine_Square last summer when a bunch of people were stealing daily. It became harassment. Pyro probably remembers because one person was using /warp mineco.

    Also a lot of people say they want to see your home, so you invite them, then they just steal and warp away. As for public homes, there is a difference when you have your home set at your home and it is public, or you have your home set at a community area and set it to public.

    EDIT: I should also add that it used to cost (100r i think) to /t spawn to a town you are not in. That is annoying as well for people that want to go look at towns.

    Why can't we all just get our own mats? D:
     
  13. Griffsbrown

    Griffsbrown New Member VIP

    I like the idea 100r to go to Other town spawns. I think that would make a lot of since. As long as its not your own town spawn or other warps.
     
  14. majestic_moose

    majestic_moose Well-Known Member VIP

    When I voted for the last one, I saw it as an option to say that the /home commands should not change, but change the rule however you want.

    The other 2 options are either public or invite, I want both. Don't care at all about getting robbed, I think use /home to your hearts content.
     
  15. sharqman

    sharqman Well-Known Member VIP

    how will people go around looking at towns to see which one they want to join then? Also with nations now, how would that work?


    EDIT: imo warping to steal is equivalent to warping to kill in peaceful.
     
  16. Lazy_Smurf

    Lazy_Smurf Member

    I think players should have the ability to make their home public, and if anything gets stolen, it's sort of their fault in the first place.
     
  17. Jasperli

    Jasperli Member VIP

    If town is public it is their fault. If a person wants to see the town it is up for mayors/asses to provide him all the information he needs in video, info, picture or by letting him to warp to town by changing status of town to public for few seconds.
    It isn't unfair at all and tbh Sharqman people do still walk to towns to steal and it is forbidden to have a town where you can't get into from outside as then it would count as same thing as placing dirt on top of chests in town. So just deal with it. I belive it is better if person get robbed during his first day on server rather than later and learns to lock his chests.
     
  18. Wkdclwncar

    Wkdclwncar Member VIP

    Everything you just said in this post can be cured with one simple command: /cprivate. It can't be to a level of harrassment if people simply lock their chests. It's very simple to do and easy to afford. If someone comes to your town to steal and all the chests are locked, no worries. Why would it matter if they walk there or warp? We are creating tons more work for the staff and banning many people to enforce a silly rule that can be very easily thwarted by the home owner locking their chests.
     
  19. sharqman

    sharqman Well-Known Member VIP

    People who have just bought a plot usually do not have money to buy a chest lock that day. If you can warp to steal people would do daily runs on all the public places just to steal.
     
  20. nrayf

    nrayf Active Member VIP

    No, I disagree. The way towny is set up, there are no special nation privileges when it comes to doing t spawn. So my nation, because people think like you and do their best to screw with me and my town, doesn't get to see their nation capital.

    I believe a person should NEVER use an enemy town spawn, no matter whether they steal or raid or not. It means that one can go to town spawn, xray a bit but not pvp, or just look around and scout out exits/homes/chests, and then walk back, with all the knowledge of the raid's route beforehand. manglor and I have banned players before who continue warping into a town they're not allowed in, and there's no reason for people to go to enemy towns without permission, whether or not it's public.
     
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